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Above Ground Pool Deep Ends

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I am often asked about an above ground swimming pool’s depth. Above grounds come in three main wall heights: 48”, 52”, and 54”. Some of the really inexpensive models are also available as a 42” height wall (which is much lower), but I’m not going to include them because they are really cheap and don’t last very long. Now for those of you who can’t read a tape, the 48” is the same as four feet; the 52” wall is four feet and four inches; and the 54” wall is four and a half feet tall. Already too much math? Sorry, but here’s more.

Now the above numbers are the height of the actual pool’s wall and NOT the real depth of the water. An above ground pool has a top structure and a skimmer and the water level is not meant to reach the very top of its structure. In general then, the water level will be about six inches below the top of the pool. So, the average water level is going to range from 3’,6” to 4’ deep. The next question that usually comes to mind is, “Is this pool deep enough for me and my family?” Some shorter people or people with small children will ask if this is too deep.

In most cases, a depth of about four feet would be fine for pool owners. Some people though want a pool that is deeper than that. Maybe they don’t want to be in control all the time by always being able to touch the bottom of the pool. Maybe they want to drift aimlessly around a seemingly bottomless abyss while they wonder about the dangers beneath their feet. OK, probably not, but some do want to have a deeper pool so that their bodies are better covered by water while they are standing in the pool. So to those wondering, you can have a deeper above ground pool. But how much deeper?

At this point it’s worth mentioning that all round shaped above ground pools are capable of having a deep end/center. Most ovals, though, are not capable of having a deep end/center. Most oval pool designs have metal straps that run under the pool’s bottom and therefore it will not allow you to dig your pool deeper. Just so that you know.

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So How Deep Can You Go?

This depends on two things – what type of liner the pool has and how big the pool is. In most cases an above ground pool with a deep center is about one foot deeper in the middle. That’s the average and what I would recommend. Well, with the way above ground pool liners are these days, I’d safely say you can go about 10” deeper since liners are made with less material than they used to be. I would say go down about only a foot deeper for two reasons. One is you can still use a standard size liner and the other is you can shape the pool’s bottom better.expandable-liner

A vinyl pool liner can stretch. They are designed to be a little smaller than the pool so when you install them, they can expand to fit perfectly to something that may not be that perfect. It’s been my experience that a standard size liner can accommodate a pool bottom that has a gradual grade down to about one foot deeper in the center. If you go any deeper than that, the liner may be too tight. Now if just a foot deeper in the middle is just not enough, you can go deeper but you will need to get what is called an expandable liner.

Why Is It Called an Expandable Liner?

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You Can Call This the Gravity Method Aka the Lazy Man

I don’t know why it is called an expandable liner. It’s confusing as most people think the term “expandable” means the liner is made from a different material that maybe expands more or better than a standard liner. It doesn’t and is made with the same material as any other liner. They’re not more special or any cooler. The only difference between an expandable liner and a standard liner is that the expandable has about 12 inches more side vinyl material. This extra material will allow you to go down an additional foot for your pool’s deep center. If you’re good at math then you’ve probably already figured out that with an expandable liner you can now have a two foot deep center for your pool. Keep in mind too that expandable liners only come as overlap types. There are no j-hook or beaded liners that are also expandable. If you want a nicer looking j-hook or beaded liner for a pool with a deep center that is deeper than one foot, you can get that. It’s going to cost you though, because that would be considered as a custom liner and they are pricey.

The size of a pool also plays a factor in how deep the center can be. You wouldn’t want to have a two-foot deep center in a round pool that is only 12′ in diameter as the area is too small so the grade to the center will be too great. This brings up the other major consideration – shaping.

Shaping a Deep Center for an Above Ground Pool

Standard above ground pool liners are designed for flat bottoms. They have a flat round bottom piece with no extra material to accommodate a shape other than flat. Like I mentioned earlier, they do stretch quite a bit so a hooper can be made and the liner will fit its contour with little issue. Though, a concern is wrinkles. If a deep center is

Example of Liner wrinkling.
an Example of Liner Wrinkling

shaped properly, the liner’s bottom will have a few or no wrinkles at all. Though, the shape has to be more like a dish instead of an upside down pyramid. Sharp edges and deeper grades will most certainly produce wrinkles in the liner that will run perpendicular to the pool’s wall. It’s not the end of the world to have wrinkles, but they do make it harder to vacuum the pool, don’t look that good and you can feel them. Having some wrinkles shouldn’t affect the liner at all. Also, you should allow for some flatness on the bottom of the pool before the edge of the hopper for the deep center. This means having a smaller dish in the center of the pool instead of the pool’s bottom being shaped more like a giant satellite dish (like the ones from the eighties) from wall to wall.

Deep centers for above grounds are pretty cool but not my favorite option and will make the job of installing the pool bigger. I charge an extra $250 for a standard one foot deep center on a 24’ round pool and never really want to do the job. They can make it slightly harder to maintain your pool too and if not shaped well, it will give an automatic cleaner some trouble. Though, when they are done well, pool owners seem to enjoy them so don’t mind my negativity. They’re just a pain to dig.

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64 responses to “Above Ground Pool Deep Ends”

  1. Shirley Smith Avatar

    we have a round concrete pad that we currently have an Intex above ground pool that is 12 by 24 by 48 in. With a concrete pad is there any way of going higher than 54 in? I am at all person and I’d like to have 60 in? Any advice? And know my husband will not allow me to touch the concrete pad

    1. Dan Dougher Avatar

      I don’t understand. You have a 48″ tall pool and you want to extend it to 60″? Sorry. That’s in no way possible with an Intex on concrete.

  2. Jason Avatar

    Hello – we are purchasing a 28’ Round doughboy this spring and just bought a pool heat pump from this site. Anyways we are still contemplating adding the deep end because we are worried we will lose a lot of the standing area that most people relax in. If we wanted to do a deep end and not a deep Center how much area of the pool would the slope and deep end take up. I understand that it needs to be a gradual slope and not a quick drop off.

    1. Dan Dougher Avatar

      This is a round pool so you could have a deep CENTER instead which I like better. You can make the deep center as big or small as you want. I recommend having a good ledge of flatness before starting your slope. If you are only going down a foot, then the hole can be smaller. If you are planning for a two foot deep center though, you’ll want the hole bigger so the slope is more gradual. Either way I would say to leave at least a four-foot ledge all the way around.

      A deep end in a round pool can be as big as you want also but is trickier to shape. Doughboy has a dig sheet and it will have you start the slope right at the wall on one side. Personally I don’t like that as you can’t stand by the wall on the deep side. Their dig uses takes up about half of the pool. Most people are happier with a deep center I’d say.

  3. Denis Avatar

    Interesting article, thanks.

    Do you know of any above ground pools with graduated heights that can accommodate toddlers to adults?

    1. Dan Dougher Avatar

      I do not. I once installed a liner for an oval pool that was in the ground and the homeowner filled in one end making it only three feet deep. The liner was not custom and did not fit well. A better option is to get wedding cake type steps which will offer a shallow landing for small kids.

  4. mona Avatar

    I have a friend that purchased a home with a pool that is partially above ground and partially inground. I would estimate the pool to be approximately 15 X 30. The shallow end is 4-feet. The floor gradually begins dropping off about half way from end of pool. The deep end is about 8 feet deep. The liner is old and may need to be replaced. A local pool shop said they know of no one that will even attempt to replace that liner. Obviously, she will need to get precise measurements before proceeding. Before she gets too far into this mess, is there any hope in replacing that liner?

    1. Mark Avatar

      I’d say it’s possible as the liner is old meaning it was pretty durable. 8 feet seems a little too deep though you may want to fill it in a bit on the deepend after you replace the liner. Find a second opinion I’d try to anyways

    2. Dan Dougher Avatar

      If the pool is truly 8 feet deep, then you’ll need a custom made liner or an expensive Doughboy liner. It may be hard to find someone who will do this job as the pool is in the ground some and that could be tricky. I have 32 years of experience and would probably pass on it. If you do find someone, make sure they are experienced and if they don’t want to look at it first, don’t use them.

  5. jason Avatar

    Hi I appreciate your advice dan, My question is will adding the deep end affect the integrity of the pool itself? Adding the extra water weight to the pool makes me a little nervous.. I’m buying my first house this month and my money is tight, i’m debating buying a cheapo Intex/summer wave pool to try this out before getting a nice above ground pool in future years. Is my yard going to flood if i try this lol

    1. Dan Dougher Avatar

      Adding a deep end to a pool shouldn’t affect it’s integrity as long as you have at least an 8″ ledge between the wall and where the deep end begins. I think it should be more than that though. And I think it’s a good idea to get a cheap Intex pool first so you can see if you like having a pool. This has been a trend in the last ten years or so.

  6. Eric Avatar

    can you add extra sand before putting the liner in to make the pool shallower?

    1. Dan Dougher Avatar

      Yes you can (with an overlap type), but you will most likely have wrinkles in your liner as a finished product. Unless you get a custom sized liner.

  7. Carrie o Avatar

    I want to get a 15 by 30 but I need it to be at least 6 foot deep. I want the pool to go half way in the ground. Does one end have to be dug deeper to get that 6 foot I’m looking for. Or is there a longer pool that I may need to accomplish the 6 foot deep end.

    Thank you. Carrie

    1. Dan Dougher Avatar

      You can do this but only with a strapless oval. The only common ones that I know of are made by Doughboy or Lomart(Doughboys redheaded stepsister company).

  8. Chuck D Avatar

    I ahve a 30′ round by 52″ deep above ground pool. I found a really good deal on a liner J-channal style, but it is for a 30′ round 54″ deep pool. I would like to have a deeper center. My question is , could I use the 54″ deep liner on my 52″ pool and make it deeper?

    1. Dan Dougher Avatar

      Yes I think that would work. I think the extra material is in the wall section of the liner so you’ll want to make a bigger or wider deep center so it will draw the extra wall material inward and towards the pool’s bottom.

  9. Debbie Avatar

    Hi, I have installed a 18′ by 52″ round pool in my yard…the problem is that there is an 18″ difference from the height of the slope to the bottom of the slope…I have dug the poles down 18″ at the highest point of the slope to level off the top of the pool with the the poles on the lower side of the slope…therefore giving me a sloped bottom of the pool with a deeper end…my question is do you think this will work as long as the top is level…I am nervous about filling it up, and afraid that there would be too much pressure on the deeper end at the bottom of the slope….any information would be greatly appreciated before I fill it up. Thank you!!

  10. Help! Avatar

    I ordered the wrong size liner for my pool–ordered a 15x30x48 pool is 15x30x52. Can the 48 liner be made to fit?

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