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Moles and Above Ground Pools

Moles and Above Ground Pools

About ninety-nine percent of all above ground swimming pools are built directly on the earth. So, guess what… The earth is home to all kinds of critters and bugs. Most of these things living in your backyard won’t affect an above ground’s bottom, but some will. And, if I made a list of the peskiest critters affecting above grounds, moles would be at the top.

I haven’t seen moles damage liners much to the point of needing replacement, but I have seen them cause extensive damage to a nice smooth above ground pool bottom.  Getting rid of them is almost impossible and preventing them from burrowing under the pool’s liner is really difficult too. I get many people with existing pools ask about how to stop moles and my short answer is that I don’t know. I do know some things about moles that may help, so read on if you’re having issues with moles.

What’s a Mole?

how does a ground mole ruin an above ground pool?

A mole is a little animal that lives just under the surface of the earth. They are the size of a small mouse, always have dark fur, and look like a mouse with deformed feet and a weird nose. When I say they live “just under”, I mean just a few inches. This is a problem for above grounds, because when moles move around they make a tunnel just under the earth’s surface that displaces it. By the way, this is not good for that smooth pool bottom I just made.

Moles aren’t social creatures, but their territories can overlap resulting in a backyard having more than one. They move around a fair amount, so it only takes one or two to make pretty good ruts in a pool’s bottom.

Some ask me if they have moles. You can’t always tell if you have them, but if you go outside in the morning and see a trail ofslightly elevated earth, then that’s amole trail.

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Often there will be no evidence of moles, but you’ll have them. Often they are living in yards with above ground pools and never go under them. No issues there.

Getting Rid of Moles

This is not my field of expertise, but I have heard some things. I’m sure there’s a master mole exterminator somewhere that knows how to kill them or some kind of “mole whisperer” that can talk to them and train them not to travel under a pool, but as an observant pool installer, I can only tell you this:

Get a Cat!

Get a young cat, don’t feed him much, and make sure he lives mostly outside. Young cats love to find and kill moles (well, maybe not kill, but play with them until they stop

moving, forever). It’s kind of cool when you go out in the morning to get the paper and the cat has left you a dead mole by the front door. All right, so nobody gets the paper anymore, but you’ll eventually go outside and find your cat’s gift  – the dead mole.

To me, cats are the best way to control the mole population, but there are some chemicals available that supposedly get rid of them too. I’ve heard homeowners resort to poisoning food, gassing, and setting traps to get rid of their moles. However, most have admitted to having little success. Please don’t let me discourage you, though, as I’m not an exterminator.

How Do I Stop Them From Damaging my Pool Bottom?

how to rid your pool of moles?
Go Dig Somewhere Else

OK, so if I can’t get rid of moles, how do I stop them from causing damage? Damage caused by moles to an above ground pool’s bottom can be extreme, but usually it’s just some annoying ruts that make it harder to keep the pool clean. In almost all cases, this type of damage is only corrected when the pool liner gets changed. This is usually years down the road, but since the old liner has to come out, it’s a good time to think about how to stop moles from continuing to damage the pool bottom. Here are a couple of things people have done. Some things will work for sure and some won’t. I’ll list them from the least expensive to the most expensive.

I. Install a Liner Guard or Gorilla Pad

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Example of Liner Pad

These pads won’t at all deter the moles from tunneling under the pool and won’t stop the ruts they make. A liner guard will prevent the ruts from causing any damage to the liner, because the pad will always be positioned between the liner and anything potentially sharp in the earth.

II. Installing rigid foam sheeting on the entire floor of the pool

Again this won’t stop the moles from going under the pool. You just won’t see or feel the tunnels, because they’ll be under the foam boarding. The more expensive, thicker and more rigid foam sheets have to be used for this. Less dense and thinner foam will eventually thin and contour the ruts created below. Cut these rigid foam boards to fit and seam them tightly together using duct tape.

III. Install a mole wall around the perimeter of the pool

Moles travel below the ground so when I say “wall” I mean a wall under the surface. I have seen homeowners use continuous rigid plastic sheeting that is about one foot wide and bury it all the way around their pools. No one knows how deep a mole will travel, but going one foot down seems to do the trick. NOTE: A customer of mine used 1”x6” pressure treated wood and buried it all the way around their pool and still had mole intrusions. 

IV. Pouring concretepour concrete to deter moles

This is by far the best way to solve this and any other problem with an earth bottom, but it is super expensive. If your mole issue is so bad that you are going to make a concrete floor for your above ground, then good for you as the problem will be solved. You may need to put in some OT at work to pay for it, though.

When making a concrete bottom for an existing above ground, don’t pour too close to the wall. Leave at least a gap of a couple inches all the way around and use foam coving. Also, you’ll need to purchase a liner guard to go between the concrete and the liner.

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Dan Dougher

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49 responses to “Moles and Above Ground Pools”

  1. Mark Avatar

    I always have success by throwing a little mole repellant around with my weed and feed in the spring. But what really gets rid of them is using grub killer. Moles eat grub. Remove the food supply, remove the critter….

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      I have my lawn treated professionally every year with grub killer and still have moles because moles also eat earth worms. Earth worms are great because they create healthy soil BUT they create a smorgasbord for moles. Traps and poison haven’t worked for me either. I end up hunting them myself (watch for movement in lawn) and jab them with a shovel or homemade pitchfork. Sounds funny but I’ve gotten rid of a lot that way. Only problem is it’s time consuming…frantically looking for something that works faster and easier

    2. Ernestine Avatar

      Thank you. I have lost three pool liners and I do have an over abundance of earthworms. It is getting very expensive. I don’t want to give up my pool but I’m almost at that point. I will try this.

      1. Gary Avatar

        I’m having the same problem and This is what I’m getting ready to try. I’m gonna dig a treanch all the way around and put this in ground.. Amerimax 6 in. W X 10 ft. L Aluminum Valley Flashing Silver. It comes in 50 foot rolls also.

      2. Cheryl G Avatar

        I made a patio out of pavers, having put down small rock and sand first. I used polymeric sand between pavers. Next thing you know some of my pavers seemed to b seriously shifting and the sand caving in. There were mounds of dirt in my yard so it was either moles or gophers. My friend told me to buy gopher/mole stakes at Lowe’s becuz it worked for him. So I did. They go 12 inches in the dirt, run on batteries, and make a buzzing sound every few seconds. It confuses the critters. It worked that very day I put them in. It’s been 2 years now critter free and they used to tare my yard up faithfully. Never thought they would tare up my patio.

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        been installing pools for seven years and the best thing ive found is owens corning pink panther fanfold even a quarter inch works then sand untop. the weight of the water and the barrier from the board keep any tunnels from pushing through the sand

    3. John Dougherty Avatar

      I totally agree with Mark. I use Triazicide as a grub killer and it eliminated a massive issue with moles and raccoons, which can be just as destructive to a lawn. Not sure about ground squirrels.

  2. Debra M. Avatar

    Can you use strategically placed “bender board” under the lining to prevent these rodents?

  3. Sheryl Avatar

    Try pouring ammonia in the tunnels in the yard. Seems to run them off some. I kept watching the yard cats peeing on the tunnels and they seemed to move on. I tried the Juicy Fruit gum with limited success.

    1. Matthew Simmons Avatar

      Inviting animals to pee in your yard? Well’s one way to piss off the neighbors.

    2. Mark Avatar

      I have used ammonia and bleach in the tunnels. It makes chlorine gas, so don’t inhale it. Not sure how well it helped, but it didn’t last. Grub killer. That’s your solution. No food, no moles.

      1. Matthew Simmons Avatar

        I feel like I shouldn’t have to say this, but… Don’t intentionally make chlorine gas, ever. Using that on an animal is unusually cruel, especially since the animal’s only offense, in this case, is making its home in the “wrong place.” There is a reason it’s prohibited in the Geneva Protocol.

      2. Mike Avatar

        That is terrible advice and is also warned against on ammonia and bleach lables.

  4. Michael Avatar

    My pool was losing water. Found several pool pin holes. Do moles put pin holes in your liner?

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    A great option is to dig a 1 foot deep trench About 1 foot away from around the outside Of the pool and fill it with gravel. This seems to work well for everyone with pools in our area.

  6. Debbie Riddle Avatar

    We live in North Central Texas and our area has a lot of moles. My question is: at about this same time of year (May-June) we find two or three moles moles in our gunite in the ground pool. The have to go several feet above ground and across the deck to get there and then fall in. They drown and we find them in the skimmers. Does anyone know why this happens? It seems odd to us for a subterranean critter. We just hate finding these little guys like this.

  7. Will Davila Avatar

    I am going to try 19 gauge wire fencing—hardware cloth–it has 1/2 inch squares comes on a roll i will first put down a plastic tarp on the dirt then add the wire mesh fence on top of tarpe like a big blanket covering the entire pool bottom. Then put a plastic tarp on top of metal mesh screen then two inches of sand –the normal pool sand bottom and then one more plastic tarp..the metal 19 gauge wire i hope will do it oh i think

    1. Ernestine Avatar

      That may work. Good idea

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